Episode 141: Ron Citlau – Hope for the Same-Sex Attracted: Biblical Direction for Friends, Family Members, and Those Struggling With Homosexuality [podcast]

Episode 141: Ron Citlau – Hope for the Same-Sex Attracted: Biblical Direction for Friends, Family Members, and Those Struggling With Homosexuality [podcast]

Welcome to The Shaun Tabatt Show! Today I speak with Ron Citlau about his new book Hope for the Same-Sex Attracted: Biblical Direction for Friends, Family Members, and Those Struggling With Homosexuality (Bethany House, 2017).

Here’s the ground we cover in this conversation:

  • You previous book Compassion without Compromise released back in 2014. How has the landscape of this conversation changed since then? (00:40 – 2:16)
  • The subtitle suggests that you have a broad audience in mind for Hope for the Same-Sex Attracted. Who are the readers you had in your mind’s eye as you were writing the book. (02:17 – 03:06)
  • Same-Sex attraction is a part of your own personal journey and story. How did Jesus meet you in the midst of your struggle? (03:07 – 04:58)
  • What are some of the obstacles that can keep a same-sex attracted person from receiving God’s gifts for them? (04:59 – 05:58)
  • Why is same-sex marriage a harmful thing, rather than a gift for those who struggle? (05:59 – 08:45)
  • You say that the church is one of God’s gifts to same-sex strugglers. Too often, the church has been a place of condemnation rather than compassion. How can we minister to those who are sexually broken in a way that is helpful for them? (08:46 –  11:12)
  • How can following Jesus bring hope and healing to the person struggling with same-sex attraction? (11:13 – 16:32)
  • If we had the technology to beam you in front of every reader as they get to the last page of Hope for the Same-Sex Attracted, what parting challenge or word of encouragement would you want to share with each of them? (16:33 – 18:07)
  • Ron, if the listeners want to find out more about you and learn more about your new book, where should they go on the web? (18:08 – 18:17)

About the Book:  Sometimes in our big-picture discussions about homosexuality and same-sex marriage, we lose sight of the person in the middle of the struggle. Whether that struggler is you or someone you care about, there are two fundamental questions that need to be answered: How can someone with same-sex attraction be faithful to Jesus? And how can everyone else support and encourage them in this pursuit?

With clarity and grace, author and pastor Ron Citlau will help you think through every option the Bible offers–and what it does not. Having personally dealt with same-sex attraction, walked with others still struggling, and pastored those with gay loved ones, he encourages readers to think deeply and biblically about heterosexual marriage, singleness, celibacy, and more.

Discover the remarkable gifts God provides to the same-sex-attracted Christian who desires to faithfully follow Jesus. And learn how others can come alongside them with love, encouragement, and grace.

About the Author:  Ron Citlau graduated from the University of California, Riverside and Western Theological Seminary. He has served in ministry positions in Southern California and Kansas City. He is the pastor of Calvary Church in Orland Park, Illinois, part of the Reformed Church in America.

Ron struggled with same-sex attraction his whole life and has worked with and walked alongside many others who have struggled with sexual brokenness, as well as equipping pastoral leaders to serve those dealing with sexual sin. He also worked with Andrew Comiskey, producing curriculum on sexual healing now used by Desert Stream Ministries in hundreds of churches throughout the country. When he isn’t working, he loves to be with his wife, Amy, and their four boys: Jack, Sawyer, Eli, and Crosby.

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Episode 140: John Bombaro – The Resurrection Fact: Responding to Modern Critics [podcast]

Episode 140: John Bombaro – The Resurrection Fact: Responding to Modern Critics [podcast]

Welcome to The Shaun Tabatt Show! Today I speak with John Bombaro about his and Adam Francisco’s new book The Resurrection Fact: Responding to Modern Critics.

Here’s the ground we cover in this conversation:

  • First off John, since this is your first time on the show, let’s give the listeners a chance to get to know you you better. Take us into the John Bombaro origin story. (00:39 – 03:01)
  • What was the journey like moving from Catholicism to Presbyterianism and eventually ending up Lutheran? (03:03 – 04:13)
  • What area did you study for your PhD? (04:14 – 06:44)
  • Next let’s get into the story behind the book. Was there a catalyst or an aha moment where you and Adam knew it was the right time to bring this book to life? (06:45 – 09:10)
  • Tell us about a few of the contributors you and Adam partnered with for this project. (09:11 – 12:39)
  • One thing that stands out about your book is that you’re bringing out both negations, things that Christianity is not and also positive affirmations of what Christianity actually is. Why was it important to include both in your book? (12:40 – 14:10)
  • Give us a rundown of some of the critics and their specific criticisms you’re taking on in the book. (14:11 – 16:33)
  • Your specific contribution to the book takes on John Dominic Crossans’ Antichrist. Explain a bit of the ground you cover there. (16:34 – 20:20)
  • If I had the ability to beam you in front of every reader as they finished the last page of No The Resurrection Fact, what challenge or parting word of encouragement would you share with each of them? (20:21 – 21:35)
  • John, if the listeners want to connect with you and find out more about The Resurrection Fact, where should they go on the web? (21:36 – 22:15)

Resurrection Fact

About the Book:  As the team did with the book, Making the Case For Christianity (CPH), Drs. Bombaro and Francisco bring together a variety of contemporary Lutheran apologists to respond to a wide array of challenges to the heart of the Christian faith.

Each chapter addresses a specific argument from a popular, non-Christian author and offers a clear and concise rebuttal and argument for the resurrection.

The editors have found able representatives from the disciplines of biblical studies, history, philosophy, and the legal profession to write each chapter.

The book is accessible, written for a broad audience, and is ultimately designed to equip its readers for the apologetics task.

About the Author:  John Bombaro is senior pastor at Grace Luther Church, San Diego, and a chaplain with the United States Navy. He is a regular contributor to Modern Reformation and the author of Jonathan Edwards’ Vision of Reality.

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Episode 139: Caspar McCloud – Unmasking the Future – Nephilim Giants – The Illuminati – New World Order [podcast]

Episode 139: Caspar McCloud – Unmasking the Future – Nephilim Giants – The Illuminati – New World Order [podcast]

Welcome to The Shaun Tabatt Show! Caspar McCloud returns to the show today to dig deeper into the topics he covers in his book Unmasking the Future: A Guide to End-Time Prophecies and Today’s Headlines.

Here’s the ground we cover in this conversation:

  • Unmasking the Future has been out for nearly 6 months. How have readers responded? (01:14 – 11:56)
  • When did you first encounter material on nephilim giants and fallen angels and what made you decide to dig even deeper and begin studying it? (11:57 –  16:18)
  • What are some of the artifacts and other types of evidence you and L.A. Marzulli have discovered on some of your expeditions? (16:19 – 21:03)
  • Any resources you’d recommend from L.A. Marzulli for those who want to dig deeper into the nephilim topic? (21:04 – 21:13)
  • Share a bit about the giant of Kandahar. (21:14 – 25:48)
  • Now let’s move to some of the ground you cover in chapter six. Who or what are you referring to when you use the term illuminati? (25:49 – 29:58)
  • How do Freemasons and the Illuminati play into the founding of our nation? (29:59 – 35:40)
  • How are you both hoping to challenge and encourage people as you’re sharing on these difficult topics? (35:41 – 40:47)
  • Tell us about the Hear the Watchmen conference taking place in Dallas, TX from 3/31 – 4/2/2017. (40:48 – 43:29)
  • Caspar, if the listeners want to connect with you and find out more about Unmasking the Future, where should they go on the web? (43:30 – 46:21)

About the Book:  The truth is out there… only if you are able to see it through the lens of the Holy Scriptures.

Wars, rumors of war, famine, pestilences and earthquakes are increasing. Have we actually entered into unprecedented times? Legends of Nephilim giants with supernatural powers did they really exist? Is there any truth to the theories of ancient astronauts existing as alien beings from other planets? Could they actually be inner-dimensional entities from the Second Heavens? Is this part of Jacob’s Trouble and the coming Great Deception of the Holy Scripture forewarned about? Are we in fact nearing the time of the end? Is there a connection here unfolding today with the  movement and the information Jesus Christ of Nazareth stated about his return being as like in the Days of Noah? Can you face the future without entertaining the spirit of fear? With this book we reference what the Lord says that will give you hope, courage, and faith so you can discern the times ahead in confidence and without fear because the truth makes us free!

About Caspar McCloud:  Caspar McCloud is a virtuoso guitarist, singer, and songwriter, an acclaimed portrait artist, as well as an equestrian, ordained minister, and bestselling author of five previous books. A modern day Renaissance man, the multi-talented McCloud has wowed fans and fellow guitarists with his lightening fast technique, his use of effects, a la his friend and mentor Phil Keaggy, as well as his gentle, serene, celtic tinged acoustic playing. Caspar’s first book was his inspiring autobiography entitled, Nothing is Impossible, which includes his testimony of turning from the glittery, rock star world to wholeheartedly following Christ as a result of his longterm friendship with Phil Keaggy, the book also shares the dramatic story of his medically-verified healing of an incurable heart condition. His second book, What Was I Thinking published by Destiny Image deals with the spiritual roots of disease and the science of epigenetics, which is the science of how thought effects physiology, through the lens of the Holy Bible. Exposing the Spirit of Self Pity, continues that theme, focusing on the deleterious effects of self pity. His book, The Shroud of Turin Speaks for Itself with co-author Simon Brown reached the #1 spot on Amazon.

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Episode 138: Anna LeBaron – The Polygamist’s Daughter: A Memoir [podcast]

Episode 138: Anna LeBaron – The Polygamist’s Daughter: A Memoir [podcast]

Welcome to The Shaun Tabatt Show! Today I speak with Anna LeBaron about her new book The Polygamist’s Daughter: A Memoir (Tyndale House Publishers, 2017).

Here’s the ground we cover in this conversation:

  • Let’s begin with the book’s cover. It features a picture of you with a black censor bar covering your eyes and your mouth. What did you think the first time you saw that cover and how does it effectively communicate what readers are going to encounter in the book? (00:43 – 03:53)
  • Help us to understand the structure of your family of origin. How many wives did your dad have and how many siblings did you have? (03:54 – 05:52)
  • Give us a look behind the scenes. What was it like spending your early years inside a polygamist cult? (05:53 – 12:35)
  • You left the cult at age 13. Talk to us about the circumstances leading up your escape. (12:36 – 18:16)
  • What did it look like for you to adjust from having many boundaries to actually having a level of freedom? (18:17 – 22:14)
  • Talk to us about the role counseling played in helping you to peel back the layers and move forward? (22:15 – 27:20)
  • What do you hope every single reader takes away from your story? (27:21 – 32:56)
  • Every book writing experience is a life-changing journey. How did working on The Polygamist’s Daughter impact you? (32:57 – 36:05)
  • What was it like to transition from speaking your story to finally putting it down in writing? (36:07 – 40:34)
  • What was it like to read the manuscript to your mom? (40:35 – 45:07)
    Tell us the story of how you stumbled into your work as a book launcher. (45:08 – 51:55)
  • Anna, if the listeners want to connect with you and find out more about The Polygamist’s Daughter, where should they go on the web? (51:56 – 52:30)

Shaun Tabatt interviewing Anna LeBaron on The Polygamists Daughter

About the Book:  My father had thirteen wives and more than fifty children . . .

This is the haunting memoir of Anna LeBaron, daughter of the notorious polygamist and murderer Ervil LeBaron. Ervil’s criminal activity kept Anna and her siblings constantly on the run from the FBI. Often starving, the children lived in a perpetual state of fear―and despite their numbers, Anna always felt alone. Would she ever find a place she truly belonged? Would she ever be anything other than the polygamist’s daughter?

Filled with murder, fear, and betrayal, The Polygamist’s Daughter is the harrowing, heart-wrenching story of a fatherless girl and her unwavering search for love, faith, and a place to call home.

Anna LeBaron - The Polygamist's Daughter

About the Author:  One of more than fifty children of infamous, polygamist cult leader, Ervil LeBaron, Anna LeBaron endured abandonment, horrific living conditions, child labor, and sexual grooming. At age thirteen, she escaped the violent cult, gave her life to Christ, and sought healing. A gifted communicator and personal growth activist, she’s passionate about helping others walk in freedom. Anna lives in the DFW Metroplex and loves being Mom to five grown children.

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Episode 137: Jason Mitchell – No Easy Jesus: How the Toughest Choices Lead to the Greatest Life [podcast]

Episode 137: Jason Mitchell – No Easy Jesus: How the Toughest Choices Lead to the Greatest Life [podcast]

Welcome to The Shaun Tabatt Show! Today I speak with Jason Mitchell about his new book No Easy Jesus: How the Toughest Choices Lead to the Greatest Life (Tyndale Momentum, 2017).

Here’s the ground we cover in this conversation:

  • First off Jason, let’s give the listeners a chance to get to know you you a bit better. Give us a window into the Jason Mitchell origin story. (00:40 – 06:32)
  • Next let’s get into the story behind the book. Was there a catalyst or an aha moment where you knew it was the right time to bring this book to life? (06:33 – 10:53)
  • When I shared a picture of your book on social media, a lot of my friends responded to the cover art. Talk to us about how the cover illustrates what people are going to encounter in the book. (10:54 – 14:57)
  • In the book, you write very candidly that “Believing in Jesus has left us disappointed.” I believe many Christians are afraid to admit this, but in their heart they know they’re not experiencing the fullness of what they’d hoped or longed for when they first met Jesus. Why is it that so many Christians have become disillusioned with their faith? (14:58 – 19:03)
  • One thing that really hits home for me is the idea that Jesus can easily become the “background music” to a heavily scheduled life. What’s the solution to bringing faith to the forefront? (19:04 – 24:53)
  • Many are concerned about the lack of commitment to spiritual faith among millennials. What’s your take on the next generation’s spirituality? (24:54 – 32:22)
  • Every book project is a journey, how were you personally changed or impacted as your were writing No Easy Jesus? (32:23 – 35:14)
  • If I had the ability to beam you in front of every reader as they finished the last page of No Easy Jesus, what challenge or parting word of encouragement would you share with each of them? (35:15 – 36:54)
  • Jason, if the listeners want to connect with you and find out more about No Easy Jesus, where should they go on the web? (36:55 – 37:16)

About the Book:  “Too many Christians I know have grown bored and frustrated with just ‘believing’ in Jesus. They’ve settled for salvation someday, not realizing they can experience a fuller life today.”

Many Christians share a secret. Few of us dare to speak it out loud, because doing so would feel like taking a slap at God―and it wouldn’t make us look good either. Yet this secret is affecting us painfully on the inside every single day.

Here it is: Believing in Jesus has left us disappointed.

At one point we were thrilled and hopeful about living a life of trusting in Christ. But over time our experience has failed to live up to our expectations or make the difference we thought it would. So we’ve begun to think: “This can’t be all there is to being a Christian.”

If that’s what you’ve been thinking . . . you’re right.

No Easy Jesus holds the key to moving forward when you’re bored, disillusioned, and beaten down by faith-as-usual. It’s a clarion challenge to wake up each day and choose Jesus all over again; to make the tough, gritty choices that align your way with His and lead to true fullness of life. Because when you decided to follow Jesus, you didn’t sign up for what was easiest―you signed up for what was best.

About the Author:  Jason is teaching pastor at LCBC (Lives Changed By Christ) Church, a thriving church with locations throughout Pennsylvania. Through speaking and writing, Jason has influenced thousands of people to pursue Jesus with passion. He gets fired up about finding new and compelling ways to make the message of Christ relevant to peoples everyday lives.

During his free time, you’ll find Jason drinking coffee, getting a quick run in, watching the University of Alabama beat other teams in football, and listening to all things rock-and-roll. He lives, works, and writes outside of Philadelphia with his wife, Jenny, and their two children, Sienna and Silas.

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Episode 136: Leif Hetland – Giant Slayers: Ground Rules for Overcoming Life’s Greatest Obstacles [podcast]

Episode 136: Leif Hetland – Giant Slayers: Ground Rules for Overcoming Life’s Greatest Obstacles [podcast]

Welcome to The Shaun Tabatt Show! Today I speak with Leif Hetland about his new book Giant Slayers: Ground Rules for Overcoming Life’s Greatest Obstacles (Destiny Image, 2017).

Here’s the ground we cover in this conversation:

  • Leif, I know you’re going to be new to many of my listeners, so let’s begin with your background. Tell us a bit of the Leif Hetland origin story. (00:36 – 03:01)
  • Next let’s get into the story behind the book. Was there a specific season of your life and ministry that birthed the message you share in Giant Slayers? (03:02 – 07:46)
  • The book is divided into three parts, so let’s have you give the listeners a sneak peek at some of the ground you cover in each section of the book. Talk to us about how we can understand God’s timing. (07:47 – 12:49)
  • What do we need to remember about aligning with God and aligning with others as we’re getting ready to step into the field and enter the fight? (12:50 – 17:48)
  • Once we’re positioned for the fight, we’re going to be stepping onto the field. We’ll surely encounter critics and experience fear as we’re pursuing something new. How do we ignore those critics and face our fears head on? (17:49 – 22:49)
  • Let’s jump ahead to part three in the book. Talk to us about why it’s important to be ourselves and why that’s a key part of taking the victory. (22:50 – 27:47)
  • What do we need to know about choosing the right weapons as we’re facing our own giants? (27:48 – 31:35)
  • Leif, if we had the technology to beam you in front of every single reader as they finish the last page of Giant Slayers, what parting challenge or word of encouragement would you want to share with each of them? (31:36 – 34:30)
  • Each chapter closes with questions to ponder and a declaration. How would you like to see churches and small groups put Giant Slayers to use? (34:31 – 36:35)
  • I also wanted to commend you and your team for the amazing gift boxes you sent to your influencers. The personalized sling was very creative. Who came up with that idea? (36:37 – 38:18)
  • Leif, if the listeners want to connect with you and find out more about Giant Slayers, where should they go on the web? (38:19 – 39:22)

About the Book:  The world is full of giants…

Some come knocking on our doors, threatening to tear our lives apart. Others are far away, guarding treasure and glory, waiting to see who will challenge them.

Maybe debt is your giant—a pile of second and third notices that you don’t know how to answer. Maybe it is an illness—a diagnosis that destroys hope or an injury that puts an end to your dreams. Maybe your giant is a cause—a suffering people that pulls at your sense of justice or an inequality in your community. Maybe it is fear—a paralyzing doubt that sends you into long days of anxiety and depression. Hunger, disease, poverty, corruption, abuse, deceit, war, addiction, hate—we live in a world of giants.

Fortunately, we also live in a world of giant-killers!

Encounter the story of David and Goliath like never before. Learn the practical “ground rules” that will bring you into a life of facing your fears, overcoming obstacles, and slaying the giants that keep you from fulfilling your destiny!

Shaun Tabatt with Leif Hetland at Voice of the Apostles 2016

About the Author:  Leif Hetland is founder and president of Global Mission Awareness. He ministers globally bringing an impartation of God’s love, healing, and apostolic authority through a paradigm of kingdom family. A forerunner in modern-day missions, Leif has brought the gospel into the most spiritually dark areas of the world. Over one million souls have been saved through his ministry. He has written numerous books, including his best-sellers Seeing Through Heaven’s Eyes and Healing the Orphan Spirit.

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